Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari

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this. Having had a family member take their own life due to serious mental trauma is no matter to be taken lightly, nor just brushed off as a "sign of weakness".

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Originally by: Dantes Revenge

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Originally by: Reven Cordelle

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QFT.

Ever see a wolf commit suicide because it couldn't get the sheep? Not really no. He just keeps trying till he guts that ****er and wins the game, OR he dies of starvation (pretty shitty wolf if he can't kill SOMETHING...)

Safe to say; Grow some balls or die trying.

And yeah, He should have done a flip.

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While your analogy may seem plausible to you, the wolf does not have the mental capacity to feel as humans do, they are driven by instinct alone. Your dog does not "love" you, he is a pack animal and sees you as part of his pack. The pack heirarchy denotes that he is the lowest class and takes his orders from everyone else. He greets you with the same enthusiasm as he would the alpha male in a pack of dogs, just because you are human does not change his behaviour. If your dog considers you to be weaker than him, he will challenge you for the chance to take your place in the heirarchy. Don't try to presume animals have human emotional responses, if they did, you would probably see a wolf commit suicide because he feels that he is a failure.

The human brain has the capacity to involve emotional responses in everything it does. When emotions are part of what drives, failure, loss and even bullying can cause the brain to seek refuge even if that means death. An underlying cause of suicide being an option is the one thing that religion teaches - There is something beyond death. If you truly believe that you cannot die, suicide is just a means to get away from your current predicament and on to something better, almost like taking the left road instead of the right to avoid a particular town on a journey.

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Originally by: Eran Laude

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to be honest that goes against the grain of what it means to be human.

Have people no honour? No dignity? It's pretty disgusting that something like this can happen in the 21st Century.

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Originally by: kor anon

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Edited by: kor anon on 03/10/2008 18:40:18

Originally by: Corwain

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Originally by: kor anon

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Well thats a great lesson to teach your kids right there 'dont help anyone cos they wont appreciate it or will do whatever they were gonna do anyway'

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Ironic statement coming from someone in the alliance "Brothers Grim".

I appreciate that you feel you need hope, or to believe that the world is a fuzzy fuzzy pink bunny place where we can all eat clover. Unfortunatly the world is not simple, it is complex, the world is not a happy place, it is cold hard and cruel. You say you hear that too much, well here's some statistics. According to the UN in 2003 25,000 die every day of starvation. According to research by the World Bank, 56 percent of the world's population survive on an income of less than $730 per year or $2 per day. I could go on and on. Sorry, but "Boo hoo think of the children" is not a valid argument in my book.

Some of you have an overly rosy view of the 21st century.

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no i know that the world is a very bad place and we are not much more than barbarians, BUT if we want to advance we need to show compassion.

edit: yes because i joined this alliance purely on their name

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Originally by: kor anon

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Maybe beyond the realm of douchebaggery?

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Originally by: kor anon

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Frankly your pessimistic nature and lack of faith in other people deserves no place within humanities ranks

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Originally by: kor anon

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Originally by: Raymond Sterns

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Originally by: kor anon

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Frankly your pessimistic nature and lack of faith in other people deserves no place within humanities ranks

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Neither do delusionists and make believers.

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Nothing wrong with a little hope, and belief in god/s is powerful tool you just have to know where to point it

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Originally by: kor anon

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WArs happen because we like wars and we are good at em, we just need an excuse thats all

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